tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239569862679528067.post3501181631380980148..comments2023-10-18T01:52:22.751-07:00Comments on The American Dissident: Charles CoeG. Tod Slonehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/08298151154368372719noreply@blogger.comBlogger53125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239569862679528067.post-38802228773103055922009-12-24T17:14:35.663-08:002009-12-24T17:14:35.663-08:00I'd be glad to. Didn't want to fight in t...I'd be glad to. Didn't want to fight in the first place.<br />Did think that poem of yours I mentioned was sad, poignant, like I said. Well-written, though am not big on modern verse, but know that others are. JoeJoe Harthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03072164629487188668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239569862679528067.post-27206148289114518262009-12-24T16:00:33.713-08:002009-12-24T16:00:33.713-08:00Sorry Joe. It's Christmas, so let's start ...Sorry Joe. It's Christmas, so let's start over, ok?<br /><br />No hard feelings on my end.matherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16530161108492070300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239569862679528067.post-5414750091208510442009-12-24T12:43:55.153-08:002009-12-24T12:43:55.153-08:00Don't know why your remarks (body-slam) hurt m...Don't know why your remarks (body-slam) hurt my feelings, but they did. For instance I have had more than 6 petty publications in journals - more like 400 petty ones. Don't see what difference that makes anyway. Talking about things I like (in this case, books) makes me happy - not pretentious, though the flip side of what you call pretentious is ignorant. A nicer way to put that is just that you have different interests. Don't feel like being nice right now. You didn't just get on my case when I said you weren't too bright, you started with my very first post. You might put some of this imagination into your poems. But if it makes you happy, I'm pretentious. It is clearly pointless to answer anymore of your posts, none of them will be sensible, fair or failing that, accurate (a euphemism for honest). <br /><br />Sorry about the porn. Had never thought of it as porn before. <br /><br />Oh, to exacerbate things even further, got a letter yesterday. My book's been printed. My measly, petty, accomplishment. Subsidy no, de trop yes.<br /><br />Ciao. Okay. The last word was pretentious. No it wasn't, it was porno. Take it from there.Joe Harthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03072164629487188668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239569862679528067.post-74171432610606873422009-12-24T09:26:05.374-08:002009-12-24T09:26:05.374-08:00Joe,
This is not a porno site, so please save the ...Joe,<br />This is not a porno site, so please save the porno for elsewhere. Thank you. In fact, we're completely off focus here. Let's all try to stay on focus. <br />T.G. Tod Slonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08298151154368372719noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239569862679528067.post-80315894642499450872009-12-24T08:03:42.850-08:002009-12-24T08:03:42.850-08:00You think I've been on your ass, Joe? Why, be...You think I've been on your ass, Joe? Why, because I didn't want to listen to how stupid I am because I haven't read Freud and Berne? <br /><br />Joe, name-dropping is pretentious. Assuming you are well read and everyone else is a dummy is pretentious. Telling us about your petty publishing accomplishments when Slone specifically hates that sort of thing is pretentious. Publishing a book when you have only published 6 poems in journals is pretentious. Just because you've never been called pretentious before, it's still true. <br /><br />Not sure what the limerick is supposed to prove, but ok.matherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16530161108492070300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239569862679528067.post-22311869140988874862009-12-24T07:08:28.966-08:002009-12-24T07:08:28.966-08:00Pretentious?
There once was a fellow named Jack
W...Pretentious?<br /><br />There once was a fellow named Jack<br />Who gave it a wonderful whack<br />Which wasn't as odd<br />As the length of his rod<br />Which allowed him to whack from the back.<br /><br /><br /><br />There once was a girl from Nantucket<br />Who drilled a big hole in a bucket.<br />Then she cried, "What a plum<br />To have oh so much cum!"<br />And invited the boys in to fuck it.Joe Harthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03072164629487188668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239569862679528067.post-10629888601761163602009-12-24T06:56:20.833-08:002009-12-24T06:56:20.833-08:00Yup. You've been on my ass (reason unknown) f...Yup. You've been on my ass (reason unknown) from the first post I made several days ago, and you wouldn't let up no matter what I said to conciliate you. I'm not just out of college. I've never been called pretentious before. I did not dislike your poems, in fact I mentioned one that particularly affected me. You did get them published after all, but someone who likes modern, experimental, free verse (whatever they call it) would no doubt like them more than I do.Joe Harthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03072164629487188668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239569862679528067.post-66205865879923900762009-12-24T04:17:26.184-08:002009-12-24T04:17:26.184-08:00So, Joe, in one small comment section on one small...So, Joe, in one small comment section on one small blog you have told me I am not funny, I am not smart, I am a loser financially, I am barely a poet, I am a self-aggrandizing shmuck because I put a notice of my book on my own blog, my opinion doesn't count for much, I am not happy (therefore inferior), I am lame, innocuous and a drunk. But, I'M the negative, hateful one, right?<br /><br />Merry Christmas to you too, Joe!matherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16530161108492070300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239569862679528067.post-42859533544738333472009-12-24T03:40:22.016-08:002009-12-24T03:40:22.016-08:00Joe, take fresh-from-college pretentiousness and g...Joe, take fresh-from-college pretentiousness and go over to HTML GIANT. They love that shit over there.matherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16530161108492070300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239569862679528067.post-87427104578784186892009-12-23T19:23:15.994-08:002009-12-23T19:23:15.994-08:00M,
Thanks for the laugh! No, I don't warn the...M,<br />Thanks for the laugh! No, I don't warn them off. Fuck it. If they're havin' fun. Good. Too much le whiskey! Christ, how can one not imbibe? <br />J,<br />Actually, ole Mather is a smart guy. And who the hell cares what he drives or doesn't drive? Come on, man!<br />I just thought I'd let both of you guys discourse. Enough of your book, Joe! Basta! We're happy for you. But let's not overdo it. Books published by poets in these parts are a dime a million. Lighten up, Joe! Take a breather!G. Tod Slonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08298151154368372719noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239569862679528067.post-52535461652123217682009-12-22T13:40:05.430-08:002009-12-22T13:40:05.430-08:00BTW Does either of you know the difference betwee...BTW Does either of you know the difference between being dissident and being a philistine?Joe Harthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03072164629487188668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239569862679528067.post-7143135660089297002009-12-22T13:20:49.757-08:002009-12-22T13:20:49.757-08:00Due to the miracle of modern technology, you can r...Due to the miracle of modern technology, you can read it twice.Joe Harthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03072164629487188668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239569862679528067.post-60961529335345071852009-12-22T13:19:17.253-08:002009-12-22T13:19:17.253-08:00No psychology lecture You wouldn't understand...No psychology lecture You wouldn't understand it. It's in English. You're not particularly funny, you know. Read some of your poems. You're not particularly bright, either. Being a cabby pay lots? Good picture of you in front of the bar. Prefer the bar. Of the poems of yours I read, the only one that got to me (and did think it was kind of poignant and sad) was the one that ended with something like - a 5 year old asking a hooker about love. Am not interested in your opinions of my poems. Can't see that your judgment amounts to much, and know your opinions would be all negative. Don't consider your poems bad, just don't go for modern verse. Congratulations on the publication of your book. My first is due out in a few weeks as of 12/1. Only unlike you, I didn't take out a full page profile to herald it. Just mentioned it now. Seems from what you said in your profile, I'm happier about mine than you are about yours. Have the impression the only times you're happy are when you're making lame innocuous sarcastic put-downs of people, and possibly when you're inside the bar. There's your psychology lecture. Back fence style. Got a name for this forum - "Hatred".Joe Harthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03072164629487188668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239569862679528067.post-50120417269294452802009-12-22T13:18:51.448-08:002009-12-22T13:18:51.448-08:00No psychology lecture You wouldn't understand...No psychology lecture You wouldn't understand it. It's in English. You're not particularly funny, you know. Read some of your poems. You're not particularly bright, either. Being a cabby pay lots? Good picture of you in front of the bar. Prefer the bar. Of the poems of yours I read, the only one that got to me (and did think it was kind of poignant and sad) was the one that ended with something like - a 5 year old asking a hooker about love. Am not interested in your opinions of my poems. Can't see that your judgment amounts to much, and know your opinions would be all negative. Don't consider your poems bad, just don't go for modern verse. Congratulations on the publication of your book. My first is due out in a few weeks as of 12/1. Only unlike you, I didn't take out a full page profile to herald it. Just mentioned it now. Seems from what you said in your profile, I'm happier about mine than you are about yours. Have the impression the only times you're happy are when you're making lame innocuous sarcastic put-downs of people, and possibly when you're inside the bar. There's your psychology lecture. Back fence style. Got a name for this forum - "Hatred".Joe Harthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03072164629487188668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239569862679528067.post-35903357982962744182009-12-22T08:56:21.044-08:002009-12-22T08:56:21.044-08:00What happened? I'm still waiting for my psych...What happened? I'm still waiting for my psychology lecture. Slone, did you warn him off?<br /><br />By the way, I sent my subscription money. Merry Christmas!matherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16530161108492070300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239569862679528067.post-50344708680916871802009-12-20T09:42:37.707-08:002009-12-20T09:42:37.707-08:00No I am not familiar with Eric Berne.No I am not familiar with Eric Berne.matherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16530161108492070300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239569862679528067.post-57706769281357381602009-12-20T08:24:00.796-08:002009-12-20T08:24:00.796-08:00Mather - Had to be. Hope you're still there. ...Mather - Had to be. Hope you're still there. Are you familiar with (Eric) Berne? JoeJoe Harthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03072164629487188668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239569862679528067.post-25582187462270485552009-12-20T08:18:24.240-08:002009-12-20T08:18:24.240-08:00worldaudience.orgworldaudience.orgmatherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16530161108492070300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239569862679528067.post-42945507378306777332009-12-20T08:17:40.050-08:002009-12-20T08:17:40.050-08:00Mather - Where did you read my poems? JoeMather - Where did you read my poems? JoeJoe Harthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03072164629487188668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239569862679528067.post-44124401347625270162009-12-20T08:07:17.951-08:002009-12-20T08:07:17.951-08:00Yeah, some guy named Joe Hart wrote an article the...Yeah, some guy named Joe Hart wrote an article there...thought it was you until I read some of your poems under "Joseph" and concluded it was a different Joe Hart...<br /><br />I knew you meant "in a row"...I figured that out without reading Freud OR Berne...matherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16530161108492070300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239569862679528067.post-14370499277388262942009-12-20T07:51:05.591-08:002009-12-20T07:51:05.591-08:00Mather - Thought so. Sounded like it to me. Wrot...Mather - Thought so. Sounded like it to me. Wrote no article for the Herald. That's the paper your link led me to, got the paper but not an article. Was that more sarcasm? Was expecting to find one of your poems. BTW since you have reappeared, that was a typo in my earlier post - not 4 issues in a "roll" but in a "row" - was thinking "am on a roll" and two thoughts found a common outlet (read your Berne - probably Freud too). JoeJoe Harthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03072164629487188668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239569862679528067.post-84150596132728343462009-12-20T07:21:07.330-08:002009-12-20T07:21:07.330-08:00Joe, I was being sarcastic.
Did you write that a...Joe, I was being sarcastic. <br /><br />Did you write that article about Kathleen Graber in the Cape May County Herald?matherhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16530161108492070300noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239569862679528067.post-56873914899501041212009-12-20T06:55:56.857-08:002009-12-20T06:55:56.857-08:00T - With my usual will of iron, I read (and answer...T - With my usual will of iron, I read (and answered) your email and am back at your site. To make it known, you define "lacking" as lacking in truths, moral fiber, etc. Well, that may not be right, but anyway you don't define it as shitty poetry as poetry. Which as I said in my response to your email, is all that matters to me (though I have written plenty of angry poems too, poems with a "cause" - but these are not what interest me). Keats said that the "poetry" of a work was all he was qualified to judge. Maybe him. I don't judge - lack Keats' expertise - just have strong likes and dislikes - opinionated is a good word here!<br /><br />Anyway, to make a short story long, think we made up and I'll keep my subscription and you'll print the poems - both being done without my having a creepy feeling I'm eating shit. Joe<br /><br />PS, T - As an undergraduate psych major, your should know better than to tell people what their feelings "really are" and how they got that way.Joe Harthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03072164629487188668noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239569862679528067.post-88236863050034120812009-12-20T06:44:29.689-08:002009-12-20T06:44:29.689-08:00Tried your link, M, but it doesn't work. J, th...Tried your link, M, but it doesn't work. J, there's got to be a higher state of mind and pride than that offered by herd acceptance. RE "lacking" was not written as pertaining to the poem that WILL be published (the mag's at the printer's), but to poetry in general written without any underlying principle other than toying with words, which of course is no principle at all. Re-read my entry, Joe. [BTW, J and I have been corresponding since his statement about deleting my emails, so apparently he changed his mind... which is fine.]G. Tod Slonehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08298151154368372719noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-239569862679528067.post-47311326274494647052009-12-20T05:46:06.519-08:002009-12-20T05:46:06.519-08:00T - Please refund my $18, cancel my subscription a...T - Please refund my $18, cancel my subscription and do not publish the 2 poems you accepted. I don't like them anymore, I won't sink that low, and I don't want your mag. I didn't like being told that my poems are "lacking" (euphemism for shitty) because of my "intense desire for fame" when I went to some trouble to tell you what my goal actually is - not fame. And anyway you're wrong, Keats wanted nothing so much in his life as to be famous, and I for one (bourgeois moi)think a lot of what he wrote is very beautiful. So genius and a desire for fame are not mutually exclusive as you think. I won't be back to this site, so you can be as venomous as you like. But if you send me any more emails, I will delete them unread. Yes. You can add me to your always growing list. That should make you very happy. Except I'm not famous. Joe HartJoe Harthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03072164629487188668noreply@blogger.com